tangraming bhagwatgita

can i get the answer?
there r so many obstacles in life. in every field.......... in sincere work and in sincere social service also. Does the way of peace follow the path of politics also? 6/20/08

Rajeev (Bhau)
i dont think its for peace & tranquality.........its constant war, struggle,fight, uncertantity.........so was bhagwad geeta told by lord.............Whenever a student needs some advice in the spiritual field, it is generally given by the spiritual teacher in some quiet, secluded place such as a temple, ashram, or church. Bhagavad Gita is unique in this respect. It was revealed by Lord Krishna to Arjuna on the battlefield of Kurukshetra amidst the hustle and bustle and great noise of chariots, elephants, horses, bows, arrows, etc. Many feel that it was impossible for Lord Krishna to have given such spiritual advice to Arjuna under those circumstances; but he did preach Gita on the battlefield, and his words did have the desired effect on Arjuna.

What is Gita? It is transformation. In the beginning of Gita we see Arjuna in tears, unwilling to participate in the battle which would result in the death and destruction of his kith and kin. He throws away his bow and arrows and declares, "I will not fight." Lord Krishna then reveals Bhagavad Gita to him. At the end of Gita we find Arjuna in a different state. He is completely transformed. He now picks up his bow and arrows and declares, "I am now free from delusion. I am on my senses now. By your grace, there are no doubts in my mind at all. I will act as per your advice." That is transformation and that is Gita.


The world is a constant arena or battlefield. We are all the time on the battlefield. All sorts of thoughts, currents, and countercurrents are attacking us on the physical, mental, and causal planes. We have to be ready to face the attacks of unrighteous deeds, lust, greed, anger, etc. We can be successful in our battle if we have the blessings of a Guru and the grace of God. Hence it is imperative that we purify ourselves, control our mind and sense organs through austerities, grace of Guru and God.


the whole hindu philosophy revovles around the issue ''to fight or not fight''................so its our dharma which is important 6/22/08

SANJAY
in such case, either it seems or it's sure that battlefield is a secluded field also. But what about them who get killed here . death doesn't care ,whether the arrow belongs to Arjuna or it belongs to Karna , originating same race but both facing each other. And how can we forget blandishment of those who acquire their target in this battlefield crushing the innocents? And battlefield always demands antagonistics and for those who search peace can't such situation be a bugbear?
it's nice to fight against bad but it's nothing but diplomacy but victory seems to give evanescent happyness. Then........... then .....where is real peace? 6/24/08

Rajeev (Bhau)
these questions are part of BG...to understand this just think of animal world were humans dont exist..........birds has to hunt insects, tiger hunts deer, snake go for frog??????????????????? whats all this.......this is existance ....hunger,fear,fight,sex are basic instints.........above all there is no principal of justice.....they come,they live,they go............thats cycle of animal..
so basic differance in animal & human is intelligence which teaches dharma...........dharma is universal art of living................people who dont understand dharma are as good as animals....so such innocents are bound to have faith as animals............??????????? then other theory of buddha says life is pain (dukkha) nobody can change this faith...........all born lords krishna,buddha,rama,mahhumed,jesus had to go............so its dharma,dharma,dharma which one should understand.............BIG QUESTION ISNT IT? 6/27/08

SANJAY
Really big question.
Dharma is the only solution.
But how is it possible that dharma supports sometimes the false things like the killing of Duryodhana even if it was overrule to attack on thigh in the fight like GADAYUDHDHA and our lord Krishna demands Bhima to do the same thing.
Nowadays we often observe such or more overruled things in many fields, sorry to say but mostly in polytics.
Then how can we judge dharma? 6/27/08

Rajeev (Bhau)
according to some hindu school of thoughts..dharma is not all divinity nor all virtue all good things.........its a system to run humanity.........say example democracy is system
to run country so it has constitution & laws made........in same laws there may be flaws but when we overall look at things with sky view democracy runs with these laws............so a overall system & Its law.........a system is dharma not its law.......but we think law is dharma.........
i personally feel dharma as software to run humanity , there aspirations to personal feelings ( buddha calls it 'end of suffering')...........now a software on platform can have many small softwares in it....say a windows software can have ms office, media player, even software to erase whole c drive or small softwares............now you cant say a delete or erase software is against system as it is a part of it........same as bodys immune system........it kills human good cells along with virus............. 6/27/08

Rajeev (Bhau)
bhagwatgita gives a large canvas or system along with bhakti, dyan,karma, raj yoga(small software).........it never says killing a person is bad nor says saving a person is good....overall bhagwatgita never speaks of small virtues or good behavior....it never says to avoid meat nor says to be strictly vegetarian......... 6/28/08

SANJAY
Then can i say if it is like a coin having two sides. Then and then only it seems a game of gambling....................
Here in this case laws always overcome system (i think).
If dragging of the examples of technology and human body in the debate of mind is only to explain Dharma ( I have no strength to define it) , then they are respectfully acceptable.
But how can we ignore some diabolic facts held by laws? Don't they need some revolution?
System , I appreciate, is as soft as dewlap; But can't law be an incrustation on the system? Is governance the inbuilt quality of government?
You may think i am a maximist, but in search of missal, i can accept it.
Overall , cruelty is the worst recrudescene; can the system (Dharma) rectify it?